Funnybook Babylon

January 6, 2012

FBBP #137 – New Year, Same Old New 52

Welcome to 2012! Back in the dying days of 2011, we sat down and looked at some of DC’s “New 52” titles a few issues in. Titles discussed include:

  • Action Comics by Grant Morrison, Rags Morales and others
  • Batman & Robin by Peter Tomasi and Patrick Gleason
  • Batman by Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo
  • Batwoman by JH Williams III and Haden Blackman
  • Wonder Woman by Brian Azzarello and Cliff Chiang

We also talked about the overall “success” of The New 52, how we as readers should judge the success, how much digital comics should cost, and how Apple should really sell Chris an iPad for ten dollars. Seriously. It would be great PR.

What New 52 books are we sleeping on? What books are we insane to enjoy? Why aren’t we reading something not published by DC? All good questions, and it’s up to you, the FBBArmy, to tell us!

COMING IN 2012: More Avenging the Week, more Girl Talk, more podcasts, and A Cavalcade of Davids!


  1. Nice job, fellas! I can’t tell you how excited/surprised I was to see another show pop up on my feed.

    I really enjoyed the episode and overall find myself agreeing on most of the points made.

    I hope 2012 sees a lot more feedback for the blog and so let me get my garbage thoughts out of the way.

    It may be unfair to criticize Action Comics this early considering the spectacle surrounding the title but even rereading Grant’s first few issues of Batman again I’m definitely in the same boat as you all and I find the consistency to be lacking. I hope it picks up but it would take quite a heel-turn for this book to be what a lot of people expect and hope.

    A lot of this falls on Morrison for sure, but I really do dislike Rags on this book. It has less to do with the small inconsistencies in his pages though and more to do with his inconsistency to do the whole book.

    Tomasi has never been my guy so I’ve only been skimming through B&R but what I’ve seen hasn’t much struck me at all.

    I think this is mainly due to Damian’s characterization which I’ve found to be missing a lot of nuance in transitioning from Dick and Damian’s relationship to his relationship with Bruce.

    I did really enjoy the idea of honoring the Wayne’s on their wedding day and bit with Zorro program.

    Maybe I’m just too picky, because while I’m enjoying Capullo’s art immensely on Batman, I feel like Snyder’s game has stepped down from his stories on Detective Comics.

    Comment by Jess Mutter — January 7, 2012 @ 10:15 pm

  2. Gee, Jess, go ahead and submit before you’re done writing. That will teach me not to just write shit in Note Pad.

    Okay, no big re-write.

    Basically, Morrison has had a history of artists who can’t hold up a schedule or by some curse can’t be the sole artist and I feel it generally hurts the work. I look forward to being proven wrong though.

    Batman is good but sub-par to his work on Detective and that’s how the whole Bat-line feels to me now, with one exception.

    Batwoman may be more pedestrian (there’s that word again) than when Rucka was helming the story but I’m actually finding it quite enjoyable and I’m glad to see the character out of limbo. I’m hoping Williams and Co. can handle things well enough that they won’t end up the sole proprietors of the Kate and the Colonel.

    I’d love to see you all go back and give another look at Animal Man and maybe a few thoughts on some of other New 52, like DeadMan’s in DCU Presents or All-Star Western.

    P.S. I had a lot of trouble downloading this episode and playing it within the website. It finally ran to the end but cut out when Pedro was speaking. Not sure if it’s a technical glitch on this poor users end but I thought I’d mention.

    … That was all way longer than I thought.

    Comment by Jess Mutter — January 7, 2012 @ 10:22 pm

  3. Joe – not Pedro. Okay, I will officially not reply to any post made for several episodes due to my inability to communicate on the internet. … Starting now.

    Comment by Jess Mutter — January 7, 2012 @ 10:24 pm

  4. Whoo new episode. For me the new 52 was a jumping off point, and now I’m only reading wonder woman. I dont like the new origin for her, (as a contrast to other classic Greek heroes Diana’s is not special because of the power of one of her parents but by their love, turning her into a literal female heckled I think cheapens this). Then again I don’t expect it to stick.

    Comment by Asteele — January 9, 2012 @ 1:12 am

  5. I thought Action showed a lot of promise with its first two issues. I still can’t figure out for the life of me why they decided to introduce Brainiac, especially so early on.
    Also, did no one bother to read Batwing?

    Comment by Mike P. — January 10, 2012 @ 3:46 pm

  6. A little confused by your readings into B+R, I think Damian’s characterization is perfect. That said, I suppose I have a few issues on the 3 that you had when the conversation happened. That said, it was like 1 of you slightly hinted at the idea of DC psychopath-ing Damian, and you just ran with it till it was way beyond anything that comic is actually going for.

    Action Comics has gotten a little more Morrison-y and weird in all the Krypton bits (3+5). Ultimately, I think it’ll be that it’s a 4 dollar comics with the only bonus being a HORRIBLY HORRIBLY written back-up. (for anyone who’s forgotten, it was a steel story that made strangely illogical bongo jokes. It made me feel pretty ashamed that I was paying for the comic.)

    And that’s it for me and the new 52.

    Comment by Andrew — January 11, 2012 @ 12:52 pm

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