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September 23, 2009

FBBP #113 – The Trouble with Norman

Filed under: Podcasts — Tags: , , , , , — Joseph Mastantuono @ 8:00 am

With Dark Reign entering a new phase with the release of the first Dark Reign: The List one-shots, the gang looks at Marvel’s recent experiments with telling One Big Story, from Civil War to today. Of special interest in Norman Osborn: is he the Green Goblin, Super-Cheney, or the second coming of Hitler? Marvel’s stable of writers seem to hold different opinions, and we explore them all.


  1. Great podcast, guys. I agree wholeheartedly with the mishaps of Norman being portrayed differently. It actually bothers me more than then different views on Tony Stark, because Stark never came across so differently, he only did some things that were ethically iffy, but his endgame was always clear (end justifying means and all that).

    And while I have enjoyed Dark Reign quite a lot, particularly Bendis’ writing, I do think it’s being stretched a bit too much, in 2 senses; it’s been going on for a bit too long, and Norman is a bit too omnipresent, kind of like a bad-version of Wolverine.

    I do hope Marvel stays true to its word that after Dark Reign, the writers will have more freedom to just do their own thing. I don’t know where World War Hulks/Fall of the Hulks falls into all this, but we’ll see.

    Comment by euthanatos — September 23, 2009 @ 10:20 am

  2. Marvel’s titles are meant to be enjoyed individually. Isn’t that what the extra $1 was supposed to do.

    The shared Marvel Universe is shorthand for your intelligence will be insulted: see the SHRA and New York getting blown up every other week. also see The Sentry.

    Comment by Red Hood — September 24, 2009 @ 3:38 pm

  3. Damn, The Wave. Yeah… I might read that if it had superpowers.

    I liked when that semi-retarded kid who finally fit in with a group found out it was all a social experiment, then started crying. Can’t you see the Sentry weeping like a semi-retarded loser when Norman’s finally thrown out? Can you see anything else?

    Comment by HitTheTargets — September 24, 2009 @ 4:54 pm

  4. also gotta say the portrayal of the Hood is off too. In Punisher he’s basically reached his moral even horizon and doing all sorts of plain evil shit, yet his own mini (by Jeff Parker) still shows him as a moral dude trying to make the best of his situation.

    Comment by Nathan — September 25, 2009 @ 12:17 pm

  5. Good use of Doug’s “Teach me pinochle and make me bland.” I’m guessing someone has the recently released Complete Series on DVD.

    Comment by Ian Adams — September 25, 2009 @ 5:37 pm

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