Funnybook Babylon

June 16, 2009

FBBP #101 – The Batman and MoCCA Show

Filed under: Podcasts — Joseph Mastantuono @ 9:57 pm

Two weekends ago, three quarters of our intrepid podcast crew ventured to eighth annual MoCCA Art Festival and gathered to share their firsthand impressions. The numbers in the preceding sentence do not form any sort of secret code.

But before delving into “indie books [you’ll] never care about”, we take a look at two summer blockbusters: Batman & Robin #1 by Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely, and Dark Avengers #5 by Brian Michael Bendis and Mike Deodato! Do either books have The Goods? Listen and learn!


  1. loved this podcast, guys. Two great books discussed, Dark Avengers and Batman & Robin, I’m really excited for what’s coming in both those arcs. As for Mocca, I can only drool in envy of those that can attend comic conventions frequently. I can’t wait to hear what you guys have to say on the whole Captain America debacle, by the way!

    Comment by euthanatos — June 16, 2009 @ 11:25 pm

  2. I care.

    Comment by Fearing — June 17, 2009 @ 2:17 pm

  3. I should point out the “indie books you’ll never care about” thing was a joke regarding Rand’s comment before Episode 100, which I feel like I should also point out I took no offense to. I took no offense to any of the comments or questions posted, to clarify. I am just a jerk, like Pedro says.

    We have slowly come to the conclusion that us listing books does not make for good (internet) radio, so we excised the Lists of MoCCA Purchases from this episode, but worry not: we will subject everyone to blogposts about them this week instead!

    Comment by Chris Eckert — June 17, 2009 @ 4:58 pm

  4. I’m sort of surprised that you guys all like Dark Avengers so much. I’ve been reading it only because Bendis writes it, it ties into New Avengers, and I’ve been hoping that it’ll actually get good at some point. Anyway, here’s me playing devil’s advocate in response to your praise-a-thon:

    What’s with Mac Gargan making a Ghostbusters crack? Did Bendis forget that the guy in the Venom suit isn’t Spider-Man? Maybe I just haven’t read enough issues featuring the character, but I’ve never known the Scorpion to have a sense of humor.

    Was anyone else amused by the fact that when they have their masks off, Bullseye and Mac Gargan are essentially drawn as the same bald guy wearing two different suits? (I’ll return to my take on the art later.)

    Did anyone else groan at Ares’ “I will spank you like a child!”? How about when he asked “Aye?”, Bullseye answered “Aye”, and Ares then slapped Bullseye across the face? That didn’t make any sense to me, but maybe I’m alone on that score.

    I also rolled my eyes at the end of the interview scene, where the gist was:
    Reporter: “There are concerns that your team is comprised of nothing but murderous super-villains. What do you have to say to that?”
    Norman: “Next question, LOL.”
    It’s shit like this that makes me not buy into Norman deserving a second chance, no matter how many well-taken “Hawkeye and Magneto’s kids used to be low-lives, too!” comments he makes.

    And I’m not sure how you managed to discuss the whole issue without mentioning that – out of nowhere – ATLANTIS ATTACKS! What the fuck is going on? (“Buy the next issue, true believers!”)

    I’m not saying that the book is a steaming pile of shit by any means, but I would never dream of giving it “two thumbs up”. One last reason why: the art. I wish that you guys would have discussed it for even 30 seconds. I’m not asking for a 50-50 split for story and art by any means, but I’d at least like to hear you guys say whether or not you like the art on a book you’re discussing and a reason or two why or why not.

    In my opinion, Mike Deodato is the least talented artist whom Bendis has worked with in years (except perhaps for Billy Tan), and whoever decided that Norman Osborn should be modeled off of Tommy Lee Jones deserves an Ares-strength slap across the face.

    But moving on…

    Grant Morrison love-fests are A-OK by me just as long as they’re brief and about books that he’s working on with the peerless Frank Quitely. Those sound effects really were something else, huh? And I liked Joe’s point that Morrison so easily got the reader to accept that “yeah – this is Batman and Robin” despite Bruce Wayne being out of the picture. This book is certainly an example of DC doing something right.

    Lastly, thanks to that quote that you tongue-in-cheek pulled from one of my earlier posts, I stuffed my “no indie talk for me, thanks” mantra and listened to your MOCCA segment. In all honesty, I regret doing so.

    The topic would’ve been worth talking about for five, maybe ten minutes, just to quickly summarize everything: “We went to a convention. This is what the building was like, these are some of the people who were there, and these are a few of the books that we picked up.” I can’t imagine that anyone wants to hear about it for half an hour. It’s a lot like being subjected to someone else’s back-from-vacation slideshow, except we don’t even get to see pictures of whatever the hell you’re talking about.

    Don’t get me wrong: overall, I enjoyed the podcast, as usual. I just like giving tough love to the “tough love for comics” blog. And I’m still looking forward to the next Jeph Loeb Happy Hour!

    Comment by Rand — June 19, 2009 @ 1:54 pm

  5. Hey fbb,

    Thanks again for another fun podcast. Fun to hear a podcast with positive reviews. Not saying that you guys don’t like stuff it just feels like it’s been awhile. Also, to offer a differing opinion, I do like hearing about your Mocca and NYCC convention outings. Hearing about any panels or interesting people you may have met always sounds fascinating to me. Keep up the great work and also thanks for answering my questions during the 100th podcast!

    Comment by Vince — June 21, 2009 @ 1:53 am

  6. Regarding the MoCCA conversation: while I feel like the conversation that made it onto the podcast is a fine conversation, we should have mapped out what we were going to talk about better before recording. As it was, the whole section where we discussed the books we picked up that weekend was left on the cutting room floor, and conversations about relevant (but not incredibly exciting to non-attendee) issues such as the venue probably went on longer than needed.

    Glad to hear someone liked the conversation at least, and Pedro hope to be posting reviews shortly, not to mention a few books from the stack will likely get full podcast reviews in the future.

    Comment by Chris Eckert — June 21, 2009 @ 9:45 am

  7. […] Posted by Pedro Tejeda on Monday, July 27th, 2009 at 08:38:20 PM One of the things left off of our MoCCA podcast was the amazing amount of material we purchased at the show. Isn’t that the point of MoCCA: to […]

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